SI Decadramma di Siracusa

[VALTERI]

Interessante @skubydu  l'esemplare Hess-Divo, che presenta la testina di grifone : curiosa l' 'impastatura' a destra tra fine capigliatura e collo .

Seltman indica l'esemplare da Lui pubblicato, come "Penisi and Brit. Mus."

una buona giornata

Modificato 4 Gennaio, 2022 da VALTERI

[skubydu]

Credo che “L impastatura “ sia un principio di rottura del conio . Si intravvede nelle vicinanze anche una linea radiale .

Grifone di diverso stile 

[apollonia]

TRITON XXV, SESSIONS 1-4, LOT 101, 11 - 12 Jan 2022

 

Starting price: 48.000 USD. Estimate: 60.000 USD. Result: 210.000 USD

Lot 101. SICILY, Syracuse. Dionysios I. 405-367 BC. AR Dekadrachm (35mm, 43.32 g, 12h). Obverse and reverse dies signed by Kimon. Struck circa 405-400 BC. Charioteer, holding kentron in extended right hand and reins in left, driving fast quadriga left; above, Nike flying right, crowning charioteer with laurel wreath held in her extended hands; below heavy exergual line inscribed KIMΩN (only traces visible), a shield, greaves, cuirass, and Attic helmet, all connected by a horizontal spear; [AΘΛA below] / Head of Arethousa left, wearing single-pendant earring and necklace, hair restrained in an ampyx, inscribed K, and open-weave sakkos; [ΣΥΡAΚΟΣΙΩN behind hair], four swimming dolphins around, the bottom dolphin inscribed KIMΩN. Jongkees 3p (dies A/γ) = J. De Foville “Choix des monnaies grecques du Cabinet de France” in RN 1913, pl. I, 173 (this coin); Scavino 3; HGC 2, 1298; SNG Lockett 988; Basel 479; BMC 202–3; Boston MFA 432 = Warren 355; Dewing 869 = Bement 511; Gillet 645; Gulbenkian 303; Hunt III 27 = Gillet 646; Hunterian 64; Jameson 819; Kraay & Hirmer 118; de Luynes 1243; McClean 2734; Rizzo pl. L, 3; Pozzi 610; Ward 291; Weber 1612 (all from the same dies). Lovely old cabinet tone, very light die rust on obverse, thin die break and slightly off center on reverse. Near EF. A wonderful coin in hand with an exceptional pedigree.

Ex Morton & Eden 96 (24 October 2018), lot 316; Morton & Eden 66 (7 November 2013), lot 340; Denyse Béhrend Collection (before 1985); Münzen und Medaillen AG XXV (17 November 1962), lot 419; deaccessioned from the Départment des Monnaies, Médailles et Antiques, Bibliothèque Nationale de France.

Nothing is known about the personal life of the Syracusan master engraver Kimon, other than the approximate years he was active, circa 415-390 BC. The legacy of his art, however, is extensive and timeless. He worked in all the metals used for coinage – gold, silver and bronze – and left his distinctive signature (usually KI) on dies for denominations large and small. His unique style, the essence of cool classical beauty, and his attention to detail are apparent on all of his designs, whether a huge silver dekadrachm or a humble bronze fraction. All are masterpieces, but his most famous designs are his facing-head silver tetradrachm and the several dies he produced for the showcase coins of Syracuse, the immense silver dekadrachms struck circa 405-390 BC. The reverse (actually the “heads” side) of Kimon's dekadrachm design features a highly individualized portrait of Arethousa, nymph of the spring of Ortygia, clearly modeled on a contemporary Greco-Sicilian woman. The head displays little of the idealization typical of his contemporary master engraver, Euainetos, and the details vary considerably from die to die. Her hair is bound in an elaborate jeweled net and a wide hairband, or ampyx, on which is placed the engraver’s initial K; a full signature is located on the dolphin below her neck. Kimon produced only six signed Arethousa dies for the dekadrachm series; another seven dies are in his distinct style, but without signature. 

[skubydu]

39 minuti fa, apollonia dice:

TRITON XXV, SESSIONS 1-4, LOT 101, 11 - 12 Jan 2022

 

Starting price: 48.000 USD. Estimate: 60.000 USD. Result: 210.000 USD

Lot 101. SICILY, Syracuse. Dionysios I. 405-367 BC. AR Dekadrachm (35mm, 43.32 g, 12h). Obverse and reverse dies signed by Kimon. Struck circa 405-400 BC. Charioteer, holding kentron in extended right hand and reins in left, driving fast quadriga left; above, Nike flying right, crowning charioteer with laurel wreath held in her extended hands; below heavy exergual line inscribed KIMΩN (only traces visible), a shield, greaves, cuirass, and Attic helmet, all connected by a horizontal spear; [AΘΛA below] / Head of Arethousa left, wearing single-pendant earring and necklace, hair restrained in an ampyx, inscribed K, and open-weave sakkos; [ΣΥΡAΚΟΣΙΩN behind hair], four swimming dolphins around, the bottom dolphin inscribed KIMΩN. Jongkees 3p (dies A/γ) = J. De Foville “Choix des monnaies grecques du Cabinet de France” in RN 1913, pl. I, 173 (this coin); Scavino 3; HGC 2, 1298; SNG Lockett 988; Basel 479; BMC 202–3; Boston MFA 432 = Warren 355; Dewing 869 = Bement 511; Gillet 645; Gulbenkian 303; Hunt III 27 = Gillet 646; Hunterian 64; Jameson 819; Kraay & Hirmer 118; de Luynes 1243; McClean 2734; Rizzo pl. L, 3; Pozzi 610; Ward 291; Weber 1612 (all from the same dies). Lovely old cabinet tone, very light die rust on obverse, thin die break and slightly off center on reverse. Near EF. A wonderful coin in hand with an exceptional pedigree.

Ex Morton & Eden 96 (24 October 2018), lot 316; Morton & Eden 66 (7 November 2013), lot 340; Denyse Béhrend Collection (before 1985); Münzen und Medaillen AG XXV (17 November 1962), lot 419; deaccessioned from the Départment des Monnaies, Médailles et Antiques, Bibliothèque Nationale de France.

Nothing is known about the personal life of the Syracusan master engraver Kimon, other than the approximate years he was active, circa 415-390 BC. The legacy of his art, however, is extensive and timeless. He worked in all the metals used for coinage – gold, silver and bronze – and left his distinctive signature (usually KI) on dies for denominations large and small. His unique style, the essence of cool classical beauty, and his attention to detail are apparent on all of his designs, whether a huge silver dekadrachm or a humble bronze fraction. All are masterpieces, but his most famous designs are his facing-head silver tetradrachm and the several dies he produced for the showcase coins of Syracuse, the immense silver dekadrachms struck circa 405-390 BC. The reverse (actually the “heads” side) of Kimon's dekadrachm design features a highly individualized portrait of Arethousa, nymph of the spring of Ortygia, clearly modeled on a contemporary Greco-Sicilian woman. The head displays little of the idealization typical of his contemporary master engraver, Euainetos, and the details vary considerably from die to die. Her hair is bound in an elaborate jeweled net and a wide hairband, or ampyx, on which is placed the engraver’s initial K; a full signature is located on the dolphin below her neck. Kimon produced only six signed Arethousa dies for the dekadrachm series; another seven dies are in his distinct style, but without signature. 

+ 40.000 circa di diritti.

cmq bel pezzo 

 

[spadino-sr]

Salve che ne pensate di questa

[skubydu]

27 minuti fa, spadino-sr dice:

Salve che ne pensate di questa

 

Penso che con queste foto la vedo dura fare dei commenti …

[carletto23]

Che strani bitorzoli a ore 4 e ore 10 😄

[Pxacaesar]

17 minuti fa, carletto23 dice:

Che strani bitorzoli a ore 4 e ore 10 😄

 

Ciao, in realtà su alcuni esemplari originali sono altrettanto visibili quelle escrescenze sui bordi che tu hai notato. Erano generati dagli stampi utilizzati quando venivano prodotti I tondelli in argento che successivamente venivano coniati. 🙂

ANTONIO 

[skubydu]

ripeto... prima di azzardare ipotesi, la moneta va vista bene ..

con queste immagini non si puo vedere nulla.

Sul discorso codoli o forma del flan, serve attenzione ..

[Pxacaesar]

Ciao, il mio intervento non era assolutamente sulla bontà o meno della moneta della discussione. Ho solo risposto all'osservazione fatta da @carletto23c spiegando, penso correttamente, la genesi delle due imperfezioni presenti sul bordo di tante monete sia d'argento che in bronzo 🙂

ANTONIO 

 

[skubydu]

10 minuti fa, Pxacaesar dice:

Ciao, il mio intervento non era assolutamente sulla bontà o meno della moneta della discussione. Ho solo risposto all'osservazione fatta da @carletto23c spiegando, penso correttamente, la genesi delle due imperfezioni presenti sul bordo di tante monete sia d'argento che in bronzo 🙂

ANTONIO 

 

 

se il mio intervento fosse stato indirizzato a te, ti avrei citato direttamente.

Poichè non l ho fatto, era in generale.

 

[Andrea Costa]

Il 27/8/2023 alle 22:32, spadino-sr dice:

Salve che ne pensate di questa

 

Potrebbe cortesemente pubblicare delle foto della moneta piu' ravvicinate?...anche del bordo. E' la moneta delle monete di cui circolano ovviamente parecchi falsi a volte ben fatti. Il valore economico della moneta autentica e' molto elevato. Con foto migliori qualcuno degli esperti del forum potrebbe esprimere una opinione. Da parte mia, vista la foto pubblicata e anche la mia non eccelsa esperienza, direi che per me e' falsa piu' spinto da una sensazione ed anche da un fattore probabilistico ma non riesco a dare un giudizio motivato al riguardo. Da dove proviene? Ha un pedigree?Anche questi, per questa tipologia, sono dati fondamentali...

Modificato 29 Agosto, 2023 da Andrea Costa

[CdC]

Ho ripulito la discussione da alcuni post sopra le righe. Invito come di consueto gli utenti a chiarire in pvt eventuali incomprensioni, qui cerchiamo di restare in tema.

Grazie.