dux-sab Inviato 2 Novembre, 2017 #51 Inviato 2 Novembre, 2017 scusa, dalla moneta 13 alla 15 che copricapo indossa ? Cita
ARES III Inviato 3 Novembre, 2017 Autore #52 Inviato 3 Novembre, 2017 Pelle di capra con corna, modello Iuno Sospita Cita
ARES III Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Autore #53 Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Finalmente ho un po' di tempo e vi mostro un'altra acquisizione. È molto particolare. 1 Cita
ARES III Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Autore #54 Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 E c'è anche quinario (che però viene spesso definito erroneamente obolo) 3 Cita
ARES III Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Autore #55 Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Questo denario è quello di cui avevo parlato nell'altra discussione Cita
Rapax Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Staff #56 Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 25 minuti fa, ARES III dice: E c'è anche quinario (che però viene spesso definito erroneamente obolo) Parrebbe imitativo del quinario della Titia ma con pegaso rivolto a sinistra e non a destra come nell'emissione romana. Cita Awards
ARES III Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 Autore #57 Inviato 7 Aprile, 2022 38 minuti fa, Rapax dice: Parrebbe imitativo del quinario della Titia ma con pegaso rivolto a sinistra e non a destra come nell'emissione romana. Ma anche il contrario, ma questa purtroppo non è mia https://kuenker.auex.de/Auktion/Onlinekatalog/?intAuktionsId=1153&los=1860052#undefined CELTI SOLDI - MONETE DEI CELTI E ADIACENTI NEOPLETI NON GRECI LA COLLEZIONE CHRISTIAN FLESCHE. PANNONIA. ERAVISCI. AR-Obol (?), tipo Pegaso, I secolo a.C AVANTI CRISTO; 0,42 g In corona: testa r. (?)//Pegaso r. Dembski 1583; Principale/nick in: NZ 104./105. (1997), n. 24; Collezione Flesche 543 (questa copia). 1 Cita
ARES III Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 Autore #58 Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 Anche questo è un nuovo denario, è abbastanza malconcio ma c'è un motivo perché l'ho acquistato Cita
ARES III Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 Autore #59 Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 (modificato) Se notate bene ha una C piccola, ed è abbastanza raro in quanto di solito sono molto più grandi ( come quella che ho già in collezione). Modificato 8 Aprile, 2022 da ARES III Cita
gpittini Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 #60 Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 DE GREGE EPICURI Molto interessanti e di stile veramente molto celtico! Purtroppo, non ne ho mai avute. Cita
ARES III Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 Autore #61 Inviato 8 Aprile, 2022 55 minuti fa, gpittini dice: stile veramente molto celtico Guarda queste altre due Cita
ARES III Inviato 9 Aprile, 2022 Autore #62 Inviato 9 Aprile, 2022 (modificato) Ecco un colpo d'insieme Modificato 9 Aprile, 2022 da ARES III 3 Cita
ARES III Inviato 9 Aprile, 2022 Autore #63 Inviato 9 Aprile, 2022 Ne manca qualcuna ma provvederò in futuro. Cita
ARES III Inviato 11 Aprile, 2022 Autore #64 Inviato 11 Aprile, 2022 Ecco un quinario particolare Cita
Arka Inviato 12 Aprile, 2022 #65 Inviato 12 Aprile, 2022 Collezione molto interessane e inusuale, perlomeno qui da noi. In Ungheria collezionano in tanti queste monete? Arka Diligite iustitiam Cita
ARES III Inviato 12 Aprile, 2022 Autore #66 Inviato 12 Aprile, 2022 1 ora fa, Arka dice: In Ungheria collezionano in tanti queste monete? Sinceramente non così tanti come si possa immaginare: qui collezionano soprattutto ungheresi (Regno: Árpad, Anjou, Hunyadi Jangello, Ausburg...) e impero romano. Gli Eravisci vengono collezionati da tedeschi, austriaci, slovacchi e svizzeri. 1 Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #67 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Were Eraviscan imitative denarii a prestige coinage? By Lucia Carbone The Latin legend RAVIS which occurs on the reverse of this imitative denarius (Fig. 1) has long been associated with the Latin name of a Germanic tribe, the Eravisci or Aravisci. Other legends that appear on imitative denarii that have been associated with this tribe are RAVIZ, RAVISCI, or IRAVISCI (Fig. 2). These coins present several similarities to the Geto-Dacian imitations of Roman currencies, which I have already addressed here. Figure 1. ANS 2015.20.2362. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Figure 2. Pannonia, Eravisci. Silver Denarius, after 76 BC. Imitating 393/1. Davis B.II. Freeman 1/A, pl. 29, 1 (same dies). 17 mm. 3.30 g. Nomos AG obolos 17, 20 December 2020, lot 14. The Eravisci were a Celtic tribe living in the northeastern part of Transdanubia, i.e., the part of Hungary lying west of the Danube (Pliny, Natural History 3.148) (Fig. 3). Figure 3. Ruins of Gellért Hill, one of the most important Eraviscan fortifications. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #68 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 In the last decade of Augustus’s reign, this region became part of the Roman province of Pannonia with the name of Pannonia Inferior (Fig. 4). Figure 4. The Roman province of Pannonia Inferior. There are only guesses as to when and from where the Eravisci arrived in that region, but their presence in the area was known to the Roman historian Tacitus (Germania 28). He writes that the Eravisci moved to the right banks of the Danube from the territory of the Germanic tribe of the Osi, in the area of the Rába River (Tacitus, Germania 43) (Fig. 5). Figure 5. The Rába River in Hungary (ancient Pannonia), a tributary of the Danube. The region encircled by this river represented the first settlement area of the Eravisci. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #69 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Their move to the area of Transdanubia was probably related to the collapse of the hegemony of the Boii in the region. According to the Greek historian Strabo (Geography 7.3.11), this happened as a result of a great defeat of the confederation of the Boii and the Taurisci tribes at the hands of the Dacian king Burebista, whose quasi-legendary rule has been connected to the existence of a pre-Roman Dacian state (Fig. 6). Figure 6. Map of the Dacian Kingdom at around the height of Burebista’s reign, in the second half of the first century BC. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #70 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 This event might be dated to around 45–44 BC and might represent a terminus post quem for the beginning of the coinage issued in the name of the Eravisci. Eraviscan coins are all imitations of Roman coinage, mostly Republican denarii struck in the 80s and 70s BC, but also some Augustan denarii. For what concerns Roman Republican denarii, the four main reverse types imitated the issues of L. Papius (RRC 384/1, 79 BC), Cn.Cornelius Lentulus (RRC 393/1a, 76-75 BC), C. Postumius (RRC 394/1a, 74 BC), and L. Roscius Fabatus (RRC 412/1, 64 BC) (Figs. 7–10). Figure 7. Eraviscan denarius imitating the types of L. Papius (RRC 384/1). ANS 2015.20.2520. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #71 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Figure 8. Eraviscan denarius imitating the types of Cn. Cornelius Lentulus (RRC 393/1). ANS 2015.20.2293. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Figure 9. Eraviscan denarius imitating the types of C. Postumius (RRC 394/1a). ANS 2015.20.2524. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #72 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Figure 10. Eraviscan denarius imitating the types of L. Roscius Fabatus (RRC 412/1). ANS 2015.20.2375. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Also, the denarii issued by P. Crepusius (RRC 361/1a, 82 BC) and by L. Manlius Torquatus (RRC 295/1, 113–112 BC) were used as prototypes to the so‑called DOMISA, DVTETI and ANSALI issues, possibly featuring the names of local chieftains (Figs. 11–13). Figure 11. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of P. Crepusius (RRC 361/1) with the name of the chieftain DOMISA. ANS 2015.20.2361. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Figure 12. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of P. Crepusius (RRC 361/1) with the name of the chieftain DVTETI. Freeman 8 (5/B). 17 mm. 3.26 g. Rauch Summer Auction 2012, 20 September 2012, lot 75. Figure 13. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of L. Manlius Torquatus (RRC 295/1) with the name of the chieftain ANSALI. ANS 2015.20.2532. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. As a consequence of this wide range of prototypes, the chronology of these issues has until recently been determined very broadly from c. 80 BC to the end of the first century BC. However, fairly recent studies based on hoard circulation suggests that they were issued from about 40/30 BC to 12/9 BC, with production ending in correspondence with the Augustan conquest of Pannonia or shortly thereafter. The largest number of finds was recorded within the primary settlement zone of the Eravisci, which according to written and archaeological evidence may be placed within the modern counties of Pest, Fejér and Tolna in modern Hungary (Fig. 14). Figure 14. Finds of Eraviscan coins. A: hoard; B: stray find. Dulęba and Wysocki 2017, p. 57, fig. 4. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #73 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 However, the recent discovery of a hoard of 14 Eraviscan imitative denarii in the Polish village of Czechy, in the region of Cracow, might suggest that the circulation radius of these coins could have been much wider than previously thought (Fig. 15). Figure 15. Location of the site of Czechy and the cultural situation at the end of the pre-Roman period on a map of modern Poland. A: Przeworsk culture; B: Oksywie culture; Baltic circle; Púchov culture; E: Tyniec group. Dulęba and Wysocki 2017, p. 52, fig. 1. As in the case of Geto-Dacian imitations, the function of this coinage has been hugely debated, with foremost scholars in the field arguing for a very limited use, restricted to prestige-related contexts, as suggested by the very limited finds in situ. This might find comparanda in the other coinages issued in the so-called barbaricum, especially in the early production stages of Celtic coinages in northern Gaul. However, die-links between different issues (most notably the ones bearing the names of DOMISA, DVTETII and ANSALI ) were noted for the first time by Robert Freeman. This element hints at a very coordinated production for these imitative coinages. Moreover, the different degree of wear evident in die-linked specimens suggests an effective circulation (Figs. 16–17). Figure 16. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of P. Crepusius (RRC 361/1) with the name of the chieftain DVTETI. Same reverse die as the following specimen, but with different level of wear. ANS 2015.20.2517. Bequest of R. B. Witschonke. Figure 17. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of P. Crepusius (RRC 361/1) with the name of the chieftain DVTETI. Same reverse die as the previous specimen, but with different level of wear. ANS 2015.20.2519. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Cita
ARES III Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 Autore #74 Inviato 15 Aprile, 2022 (modificato) The R. B. Witschonke Collection at ANS provides further examples of die-linked specimens, which which also show different degrees of wear (Figs. 18–20). Figure 18. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of Cn.Cornelius Lentulus (RRC 393/1). This specimen shares an obverse die with the specimen in Fig. 19 and a reverse die with the specimen in Fig. 20. ANS 2015.20.2514. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Figure 19. Eraviscan denarius imitating the reverse type of Cn.Cornelius Lentulus (RRC 393/1). This specimen shares an obverse die with the specimen in Fig. 18. ANS 2015.20.2512. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Figure 20. Eraviscan denarius imitating the obverse type of L. Papius (RRC 384/1) and the reverse type of Cn. Lentulus (RRC 393/1). Same reverse die as Fig. 18. ANS 2015.20.2363. Bequest of R. B.Witschonke. Finally, an element that seems to be common to all the known Eraviscan specimens is the fact of being consistently lightweight compared to official Roman denominations. For example, the Eraviscan denarii included in the R. B. Witschonke collection have an average weight of 3.27 g. This is a differentiating element in comparison to the Daco-Getan imitations, where several specimens are overweight. In sum, it seems very likely that the Eraviscan imitative coinage was a) produced in a somewhat coordinated fashion, as suggested by the numerous die-links; b) a relatively limited phenomenon in terms of chronology and volume of issues, since so many die-links are discovered in a limited sample; c) not (only) a prestige coinage since several specimen appear considerably worn. The production and circulation of imitations of Roman Republican denarii among the Eravisci thus suggest the existence of an (at least partly) monetized economy, which probably came into existence in the decades leading to the creation of the Pannonian province in the late Augustan Age. Eraviscan imitative denarii are therefore part of a tale of partial cultural and economic convergence toward the Roman world that took place in the course of the second and first century BC in the Mediterranean world at large as a consequence of the Roman expansion. This very topic has been addressed in a three-day international conference held in March 2021 and the coins just presented add further nuances to this fascinating process. https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/eraviscan/ Modificato 15 Aprile, 2022 da ARES III Cita
Caesar39 Inviato 20 Aprile, 2022 #75 Inviato 20 Aprile, 2022 Una collezione veramente particolare e di qualità. Complimenti! Cita
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